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Anupam Kapil with Ravi Venkatesan Chairman - Microsoft India


"Yes, of course I believe in fate and also re-incarnation, it makes sense to me, why bad things happen to good people."

" At 41 I would like to look back and see what if I did not take this. Joining Microsoft is not about having more money, power or ego
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Excerpt of an interview - Times of India- Pune Tuesday 30 March 2004
At 41
he is the third most powerful man in Microsoft Inc after Bill Gates. Ravi Venkatesan who assumes charge as chairman, Microsoft India, speaks to Anupam V Kapil, on his passion, spiritual connection, mission and vision for India
.

An IIT graduate, he completed his management from Harvard Institute, was chairman of Cummins India, before donning the new role of heading Microsoft India. Scientific and yet deeply religious, relaxing at his plush green house at Pune, Ravi speaks passionately about his deep root spiritual connection that is in full view in his house—a spiritual ambience with a one tusk Ganesha dancing in one corner, while Lord Shiva performing tandav on an American tombstone in the drawing room.

Anupam : The post of Chairman,Microsoft was created? How did it come about,how come this sudden shift from engineering to software?
Ravi: I consulted Ratan Tata whether I should go to Microsoft. I was not looking for a change, I was looking for a period of stability, suddenly this opportunity came from Microsoft.
At 41 I would like to look back and see what if I did not take this. Joining Microsoft is not about having more money, power or ego. Technology does not interest me, how it can impact people interests me.

Anupam: What would your focus and objective be as Chairman,Microsft India?What ails India,and how do we resolve our core problems to being a Super Power?
Ravi: I am more involved with Sales and Marketing, I know nothing about IT and technology. The power of IT is something that I could never imagine-how it can transform life. eg- e-governance can reduce corruption. We are well equipped to contribute to e-governance projects in India. Another big opportunity is education—literacy in rural India. As a company we are planning major initiatives at grass root levels.IIT’s. We launched Hindi office, now we will launch regional languages interoffice. So power of computers will be accessible to people. IT has touched lives of 100 million lives in India. We now are seeing of how to go to the next 500 million who don’t live in cities and how we can bring them out of the dark ages. They cannot afford now. We want to develop hardware/software on per use basis. My view is that India is a great nation due to our culture, tradition, we have all things to be potential. My gut feel is that we shall be one within the next 10 years.

Anupam: Is Microsoft equipped to offer such solutions in the near future?
Ravi: The right way maybe is to go in collaboration with TCS or Infosys, Intel etc and then go for a pilot state, then we can scale it accordingly. India is not just about big companies like Tata’s and Birla’s,it about small and big businesses—how we make them grow and how we help them embrace IT and improve our per capita income. Unemployment can’t be solved by one thing. One lever is education and investment which creates jobs. We can impact in two ways. a. raw material in form of people. b. as leading software company we want to help Indian software to succeed. The more Indian software succeeds, the more jobs are created. Our contribution is indirect.

Anupam: What do you foresee for Pune?
Ravi: Pune has powerful things for it. The number of educational centers, defence labs, and a good climate is unmatched. We can be a knowledge city. Unfortunately we have not aggressively marketed our city, we have not developed our infrastructure well. Other CM’s have been very aggressive. We should’nt hand over our destiny to politicians. Industrialists can take a big initiative and attract opportunities and investments.. You need passion to drive it. Civic activism needs to be revived. Pune is one of the last beautiful cities left, we shouldn’t screw it up. You can change it in 5 years.

Anupam: Who are your idols and motivators in life?
Ravi: My mother was a big motivator forcing me to do my homework. She drove into me the desire to work hard. My father too was a complete man-very religious, a great Sanskrit scholar and mathematician, he inspired me. My elder sister Mailini is married to a doctor, she is very close to me. Anu Aga, chairperson, Thermax, touched my life in courageous ways. From Ratan Tata I learnt a lot--that we succeed due to our customers, we have to help our customers, if we lose sight of customers we lose. My boss at Cummins, Tim Solso taught me about integrity, not doing what is convenient.

Anupam: Are you religious?
Ravi: I am spiritual, though organized religion means going to temples, it is beautiful, giving people inner strength. For me the inner journey is more important, to impact human lives, to see God in yourself. Tatva masi—I am that. Good to say that intellectually, but to experience and act in that way is difficult. I recite Shri Rudram- an ancient set of chants from Vedas in praise of Lord Shiva. When I am disturbed I chant it, it helps me de-stress. I am by nature a very impulsive person in everything.

Anupam: What are your other interests and hobbies?
Ravi: I am very fond of reading on all subjects. I love history, Gibbons—‘Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.’ ,I love world war II. Most business books are junk. I read science, astronomy and biology. I love western classical and used to be very passionate about art and music, playing flute and harmonica.

Anupam: How is your day like? How do you cope up with stress?
Ravi: Most days I am not at home. Day begins at 6 a.m., breakfast at 7,each meeting 30 minutes. No two meetings are same, no time for lunch. Evenings are dinners with customers or employees. The best time is on flight, good time to relax and read.
The best way to deal with stress is to see it positively. I learnt yoga, pranayamand meditation at Isha yoga Institute, Coimbature, this has helped me relieve stress. Friends help, they relieve a lot of stress. I am learning a lot about time management. Weekends are more for friends and family. Now I run a lot, I was a long distance runner, it helps me relax a lot(10 kms everyday).I use to mountain bike a lot.

Anupam: How come you are still a bachelor? Do you believe in fate?
Ravi:I mismanaged my personal life, I regret it. I have realized when it happens, it happens, these things are fated. I would prefer a professional person. I never made the time to develop a quality relationship. For a long time I wanted it in more terms. I am more open to starting a family now. Yes, of course I believe in fate and also re-incarnation, it makes sense to me, why bad things happen to good people. I thought a lot about why my father suffered, he was so profound, good, I don’t have an answer, still have a lot of question marks. Maybe I haven’t yet reached a high level of actualization. Very often suffering produces a lot of learning. We are all here to learn and grow. I don’t know about my destiny. I have to give meaning to my life. For me learning, continuous learning and making a difference is important. Learning is fun and also my job, so it is interesting

Anupam: Technology has also broken down relationships,especially the internet.Comments?
Ravi: Promiscuity is due to repression, as constraints are removed. People do it because they have no purpose in life.We must try to find meaningful purposes in life, instill stronger values. Parents are very important. You have best of parents. When parenting breaks down, schools break down, when media breaks what to say? Blaming techno is no solution.

Anupam: Which are the sectors which you foresee growth on the internet?
Ravi:Payment security is v.imp. Judicial system is not in place to enforce. You can’t return things on the net. We can’t provide technology,we are not into services. E commerce will be fast in B to B, whereas reverse auctions, supply chain management. Entertainment also will be huge.

Anupam: On your meeting with Bill Gates.
Ravi:Bill Gates is the smartest businessman in the last 100 yrs. He came to open the door of his office, welcomed me in and made me comfortable instantly. He showed amazing curiosity to learn my engine business. Its all about chemistry, that was good.

ŠAnupam V Kapil

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